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Some of the parts already bought… It is a matter of time to build a new one, just for fun! By the way, the prototype works wonderfully. AyJayDoubleyou Aug 22, at RC knows something What is coming? Balgaroth Aug 22, at The frenchies are coming up with a really cool linkage fork with carbon leaf spring, and if I remember correctly a few brands were working on frames with integrated front linkage suspensions last spring or something.
So ye some stuff are coming, questions is, which one is currently in PB offices! PB-J Aug 22, at This is coming: structure. RabWardell Aug 22, at It was a lot of fun at the time! BobMckenzie Aug 22, at Cool article, thanks Richard. Makes me wonder - are we pretty much set on the "perfect" bike design at this point?
Not just Polygon Naild or something - I mean some crazy shit like this Whyte. I test rode this bike also and went through the spherical bearing after 3 hours. Admittedly I broke everything at the time. All great ideas and each to their own were absolute game changers. Suffice it to say I still have everything in a shed. Including 5 Orange Swing arms, don't know how many stations and boxes full of Shimano mechs and snapped bb' s.
Back then everything broke, my roommate was on a Trek VRX which developed play in the linkages as quickly as Trump comes out with the next rubbish. I wish I had bought the Whyte, but she was ugly.
We can only judge a design by competition! So, At that era, this design was a better solution that the current telescopic forks. Imagine the evolution of this line of design, if it had the attention of the industry that telescopic forks had and still enjoy ….
Really good point and bimmer didn't let go of the idea with their motos and for touring I am told they are sublime.
Sycip69er Aug 22, at Back when it was introduced the racer population then the most important buyers thought the Whyte was too heavy and too busy looking. It took at least 15 years for that to change. Now additional weight is fine as long as performance is great. This article needs a GIF showing the suspension path. Just work it out for your self, or do you expect it done for you, really not that hard if you were to think about it?
Diabeast Aug 22, at Diabeast : Got skill too do it just not interested? It does however require a series of images or a video from which to make the GIF. In the absence of a video, images or a bike from which to create my own GIF I have requested one, not a huge ask. In the past bikes on review have had suspension path GIFs made, often of fairly mundane typical suspension lay outs, not one of such a unique nature as this one.
What upset you so much about this comment? I demo'd one and very nearly bought one. Looked amazingly futuristic at the time and the suspension was great on the flat stuff but felt wrong going DH and round corners.
Very High BB didn't help. USE also had a linkage fork around that time which looked a bit like Teminators arm. Matt76 Aug 22, at An amazing piece of innovation at the time.
If only this would have been developed over the last 20 years and who knows where we might be now. I know 3 people who broke their collarbones from how badly that front end dropped under braking forces. It would dive under the smallest braking bumps - so dangerous!
Over the bars on the smallest drops Hi dan23dan23, Although I don't have the CAD files, I've done three simulations with excellent agreement between them. Yes, the PRST did dive, and not only due to brake dive. The second part of the problem was the leverage curve. The PRST leverage curve was inverted: it became softer by about as much as a highly progressive bike becomes stiffer. No wonder it used every millimeter of its travel on every impact! It certainly was plush, though. Once fox forx came on the scene I moved on.
The climbing characteristics of the PRST were astounding.. The jumping characteristics were also astounding Ultimately, myself included, I want to ride something that just looks like a bike should look. For some reason, telescopic forks just look right, as do round headlights on cars, and car wheels with 5 or more spokes. You will be amazed to discover how many capable designs were not commercially successful because of their looks.
At our days, it seems that anything that does not look like a session or have 3 water bottle mounts , has to be destroyed. This is quite unfair. Just give the chance to those designs to evolve, mechanically AND aesthetically. To support my position I will also add this: For those especially spoiled brats who were not there, when our sport started, when the first suspension systems fought their way to the norm and fought really hard , just do that following 3: 1 First run a search on the magazines of the early mountain bike era.
You will be amazed to discover that there was a very negative stance over suspension forks and even more over full suspension bikes! The same people now, at the same places as… experts are defending the same aspects that were rejected by their expertise back then… WOW. Take a minute and check the early suspension era on mountain bikes.
All the much known label products started with problems. Early Marzocchis were dripping oil everywhere! The joke was that you may find were a Marzocchi went by following the oil drips!!! Rock Socks were exploding their suspension leg ups made from plastic , and had to deal with temperamental elastomer units.
Manitou had to deal with their own problems and so on…. All those, dependable now, products had a rough start with lots of problems and lots of rejections from the, so called back then, exerts… The same principle applies on all the aspects of modern mountain bikes! Check the chaos or the early geometry issues.
Some people I am one of them were ridding longer bikes in order to use a very short and hard to locate stem! Make sure to check how gradually the stems got shorter and shorter, because of How many companies, aftermarket manufacturers, versions of products, models, etc.
And how those standards, even the aesthetic ones, changed along! How many, different and refined designs we would have now to choose from. But if you want to be honest you have to place this product among the competition of that era. DavidGuerra Nov 2, at I wonder why that dropped chainstay didn't catch on. Maybe it's patented? I had actually thought of that design a couple of years before this bike came along and only found out about it much later , and produced some sketches of it.
Aesthetics does seem to be a crucial factor in the mtb industry, in which more conventional looking designs are favoured for giving the impression of being proven and reliable. Even if there are no front derailleurs anymore to get in the way of things, which would have been one of the motivations for this design, I think it still offers an optimal weight-stiffness-strength relationship, and it's also not especially difficult to build.
It could well be the ultimate rear triangle design concept, if it wasn't for the historically significant "looking weird" part.
EnduroriderPL Aug 22, at Come on RC! DaveJube Aug 22, at Jon, Ross, Adrian; If you're reading, thank you. We hope we can pick up where you left off. Your design has alot in common with theirs. Both gave me horrible gonorrhea the minute I saw them. Structure-Ryan : I have to read the fine print next time. Structure-Ryan : Bike looks sick. Best of luck. I hope you get to try one for yourself! You could ask your favourite shop to contact us about acquiring a demo.
Is it UCI legal? Bring it.
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